he was the tea party candidate, so to speak, and he defeated her in the end fairly handley. , so you can take whatever reading or meaning you want out of colorado and it would be right. gwen: how about in georgia? >> in georgia, a former congressman won the nomination there. and that was seen as somewhat more of an establishment candidate. he had washington ties. so you can't -- it's not across the board. but it does seem to be in general in part because what have dan was talking about, that the anti-establishment feeling is more rost within the republican party. but even in the democratic party, it's sometimes hard to sort these things out. on the democratic side in colorado, andrew, sort of the challenger, had been the house speaker in colorado, had been legislator of the year. so he had a lot of accomplishments as a elected democrat. bennett, even though he's the incumbent senator, was running his very first campaign ever because he had been appointed to that job. so you could argue that he was washington but not really establishment. gwen: one more thing into this. it also requir